#undertale deltarune parallels
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Kris is a funny person closer to how frisk is a funny person, usually with them acting out ridiculous performances to please people.
It's an important motif throughout the games, and whenever the protags stop being funny, it's extremely noticeable and a sign of bad news, tied to being unpersonned.
(Neutral vs No Mercy Save Points. Frisk shows a bit of unambiguous personality here.)
(Noelle and Kris don't goof off with weird route exclusive items - normally they love to.)
#undertale deltarune parallels#chara can be funny but in a much drier and unaproachable way - they're here to explain not goof off#kris can be sharper than frisk but not noticeably so - they tend to differ in regards to nostalgia and memory and feelings about the future#but not in interacting with people#soilai's labyrinth
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basically mettaton deltarune's whole thing with the neo body is both really clever and really funny in the context of how deltarune uses undertale intertextuality to supplant its symbolism. like
this is good. this is really good.
(it's also a part of why i'm such a sucker for swatch and spamton's whole affair but you already know that 😭)
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Maybe they shouldn't have brought up Asriel... The aftermath
FIRST - PREVIOUS - NEXT
MASTERPOST (for the full series / FAQ / reference sheets)
#deltarune#undertale#crossover#utdr#crossover comic#undertale fanart#deltarune fanart#twin runes#twin runes comic#my art#kris dreemurr#frisk#chara#susie deltarune#ralsei#you really worded that poorly Chara#no wonder susie jumped to conclusions and promptly proceeded to put things into Kris' head#love to see kris getting emotional no matter if it concerns THEIR asriel or not#maybe they think they are yelling at someone they could have possibly been#they DO share a lot of parallels after all#but they also do share them with frisk#soooo... who the heck are they?#a fusion?#or maybe it's something entirely else...
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what does it all mean.
#I know I'm just reading too deep into it and it was probably just something fun for Toby to put in there but AURUAGHHH#but this has haunted me for YEARS#the track is the true lab theme. btw#I took most of the screenshots myself because I was determined (haha just like) but then I got so so sleepy#because it's 5am and I was skipping rooms using debug mode which is a nightmare#so I stole the alphys + no mercy ones from youtube. sorry#undertale#utdr#metatext#susie says it once in chapter 2 as well but again it's a common phrase so it might not mean anything#I didn't include it because it's the only time it's been said in deltarune outside of the scene that parallels asgore's#introduction in undertale. but we have 5 more chapters anthyding can hadplen#oroeginals
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Chara and Carmen
red-eyed brunettes
Haunting the video game narrative
deeply sensitive and empathetic
wanted to liberate people
committed suicide in pursuit of their goals
posthumously twisted by the trauma of their deaths and what people did in their names
often interpreted by fans as irredeemable, manipulative monsters despite that very concept being against the themes
#undertale#deltarune#lobotomy corporation#lobocorp#limbus company#limbus#lcb#library of ruina#lor#project moon#toby fox#chara#chara undertale#carmen lobcorp#carmen lobotomy corporation#lor carmen#carmen lor#character parallels
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I swear I have something I've found something
From "the making of" (with the earthbound Halloween hack)
you know how sometimes people will take their old bad fanworks and remake it into something like actually good and also probably an original work? I've done that a few times. Anyway:
Can you see what I'm getting at here?
"Varik is almost dead, and yet he can't stop moving because you keep pushing those buttons."
#I love it when you can just like SEE the improvement from a work and its themes and concepts. With your own two eyeballs.#undertale#deltarune#utdr#kris dreemurr#susie deltarune#papyrus#frisk#varik#earthbound halloween hack#Toby fox#The hack like definitely wasn't that good execution wise and was definitely Edgy but like I love that Toby reused and refined so many#Of the concepts for Undertale and Deltarune. Particularly in the Genocide Route of Undertale. Like look at the hack and read the making of.#You'll probably notice like several parallels and it's just. I love seeing it it reminds me of how I got a lot of my own OCs-
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observations of my favourite stories. Note: I haven't read homestuck yet.
Note 2: yes. ik Toby worked on homestuck. but
(a im pretty sure he was originally a fan and
(b being part of it doesn't prevent him from being a fan in anyway. if he wasn't a fan he wouldn't have referenced hs in his games.
#undescribed#my posts#my memes#my edits#bluey#parallels#the locked tomb#tlt#homestuck#undertale#deltarune#utdr#hs
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What are asgore and spades favorite colors
#deltarune#asks#drawings#asgore#spade#king of spades#spade king#asgore dreemurr#spadesgore#technically#king spade#no one asked but i want to elaborate#asgore describes colours in pairs not just because it might be the only colour theory he knows#but because thats also how he generally just sees. people and their traits#as if everything needs something to compliment#hence why he feels so out of place and useless to himself when hes not married/in a relationship#the way he describes yellow and purple are a good way to describe him and toriel in undertale#royal colours that are tied to hope but they only shine when theyre constracted against the grim tragedy that shaped them#with blue and orange it kind of describes sans and papyrus especially with how their comedic timing works#like when youre alone with sans in mtt resort the tone is a LOT more somber - colder#but when papyrus is by himself hes all jumpy and shit and he hardly seems as down to earth as he does with sans around#and red and green imo are the most important in analysing asgore specifically bc his weapon is red#but his shirt colour in post pacifist and deltarune is pink - literally a softer version of the cruelty we KNOW hes capable of#he describes it as just sort of -fitting- with the greenery he surrounds himself with and i think that mostly has to do with what he WANTS#all the plants and the greenery are ALIVE but almost toxic. meanwhile someone else most prominantly associated with red is rudy#the guys whole gimmick is having a bright red nose#its like asgore surrounds himself with the colour that would compliment the person he wants#or literally wearing their colours a la him and toriel having the same shade of blue on in undertale#and spade? hes just emo. he likes black because its a lack of colour - a lack of light#the reason he works as a good parallel to asgore in this sense is because he breaks asgores dychotamy and forces his own
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this is may be a strange comparison, but in terms of their position(s) in the narrative, Noelle is a lot like Sans and/or Papyrus in that she's an initially extremely unassuming & affable character who is actually intimately connected to some of the strangest, most disconcerting mysteries in the entire game. (more specifically, their being closely connected with Gaster without going crazy like the secret bosses have).
#no wonder she's my favorite in deltarune#I feel very similarly about ralsei too. but his natural parallel is with flowey because. y'know#I love making narrative connections based on nothing but puffs of smoke & imagination. it's so fun#deltarune#undertale#noelle holiday#sans#papyrus#wd gaster
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Toriel and Gaster both did not get a chance to watch their respective two children (presumably in the latter case) grow up for one reason or another (childrens’ deaths, falling into the Core).
Both are known for their remarkable intelligence and how it served the Underground - Toriel as the brain and planner behind her and Asgore’s rulership, Gaster as the royal scientist and creator of the Core.
They both speak with excessive formality, and have an overarching sense of knowing what’s best for you; only ever doing the right thing in their mind - which actually just suits and serves their interests first and foremost, whether they’re cognizant of that or not.
Both spend a majority of their stories seemingly lost to time for a significant while; reduced to fables and whispers of younger monsters who have long since assumed them both to be gone, both hidden (or merely associated with? … or trapped?) away by a large, mysterious door that prevents them and others from entering or leaving; that serves as a physical and emotional divide away from their kind as well as a legend of which townspeople speculate on.
#[gnawing on the bars of my cage] Can we talk about the narrative parallels I’m dying to talk about the narrative parallels#not art#undertale#deltarune
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#ive had these images saved to my phone for over a year#id try to explain but itd be completely incoherent#undertale#deltarune#utdr#im scared what if im wrong#i never say anything ever because of my fear of incorrectness#whatever i like drawing parallels whosd gonna fucking stop me
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I seriously wonder what caused sans’s unease with humans?
When we first meet sans in deltarune, attempting to befriend him results in this dialogue.
It’s bullshit excuse to keep us at bay, but he’s not wrong.
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In this world...
#undertale#Asriel dreemurr#chara dreemurr#dreemurr siblings#deltarune#i love parallels#this is what Asriel and Chara respectively believe about their world#Their life experiences thus far have led to them thinking it's some universal truth#And in both cases it's your job to prove them wrong#hey look! I did a thing#demon siblings#little prince#what a strange child...#brotp: angels or demons?
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Frisk came to the mountain to die.
(They just couldn’t take it anymore, the same way Flowey couldn’t.)
Last second, they didn’t fall into the afterlife - they fell into the Underground. An entirely different world. Do you think they felt fear before they hit the ground? Regret?
(On the verge of oblivion, Flowey was hit with the strongest emotion he’d felt in ages, that deep seated terror. He didn’t want to die, he didn’t want to die! And he discovered he didn’t have to. He could live forever. Whether he liked it or not.)
(Chara hadn’t come up to the mountain for a very happy reason, either. Their soul laying dormant in a bed of flowers for ages, before a child fell on them that woke them up. Why was it Frisk that woke them up? I think that it was because Frisk was the most similar to them. They’d felt that flash-regret, deep seated terror as they fell - that sudden determination to keep going. That’s what made them latch onto life again. And they helped Frisk get back up.)
Frisk going back to the surface is them returning to their old life. Frisk’s determination to get to the surface again is, I think, them still chasing after suicide. To end their life. But for some reason, they can’t let themself die down here. Even they don’t know quite why. They dodge the attacks, they avoid the danger, and when they can’t… they feel the terror of falling to their death, the determination of I-don’t-want-to-die-not-yet-not-yet-not-like-this-I-don’t-want-to-die, and they come back. Reset, reload. But what else do they have to live for? All the love back home had done was hurt them. Love had been violence and abuse. They are on a journey to die, on their own terms.
(Love. You can accept that it’s nothing but violence and abuse, that there’s nothing worth it in the world, and kill everything. Including all the pieces of your soul that make you alive. Or you can learn, Frisk and Chara can learn, that love can be butterscotch pie and forgiveness and so much more. You can even settle for the middle, Frisk returning to the surface and fighting through it all.)
Frisk’s fight with Asriel is so impactful, because it truly feels like a culmination of a fight they’ve been having with themself, too. He’s everything they thought they knew - it’s kill or be killed, love is violence, it’s not worth it, why not lay down and die and die and die and die? And he’s everything that they’ve learned - it’s kindness, it’s determination to go on, it’s worth it, get up and live and live and live no matter the pain, no matter the death. Love.
Frisk’s journey through the underground, to me, is a beautiful story about them dealing with suicidal thoughts and wanting to live again. Finding a new family, purpose and power, choosing to live time and time again, until they return to a world they’ll never see the same again - from sepia to color, from rain to a sunrise, with all their loved ones at their side. Their true family. Each implication and aspect of it haunts me - LV, Chara, Flowey, you already know it. The fucking player.
This has been floating in my mind for years and I’ve never really known how to properly express it and analyze it. So here. Is this thing on can y’all hear me Frisk’s journey through the underground is them healing and starting to want to live again and Chara cheers them on the whole time with memories of what their father said to them when they were dying. By their own hand, at that. Like do you understand the agony
#undertale#utdr#frisk undertale#LIKE. IS THIS THING ON CAN ANYONE HEAR MEEEEEE#my posts#bleagugh#undertale makes me feel so deeply mentally I’ll#don’t get me started on the parallels between this interpretation and deltarune.#tw suicide#chara dreemurr
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Undertale Parallel 613
is the first time for the prince to see a dark fountain
#undertale#parallel#deltarune#crossover#multiverse#asriel#dreemurr#goat#boss#monster#giegue#alien#lancer#dakner#sprite#comic
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there is something about malevolent that can be so undertale
#anything can parallel undertale if you believe in yourself :]#anyway i love arthur lester because i love determined characters that never give up#gee i wonder why (sarcasm)#something like choices and choosing to be better#and mistakes and saving people and trying#and believing in goodness#and hope. they are about hope#also something deltarune like. the fear of your body being overtaken by something you don't understand#and entertainment and the meta narrative of choice!!!!!#malevolent#undertale#deltarune#idk man thinking thoughts right now :]#oh and not dying when you Definitely Should Be Dead#and friendly (sometimes) voices narrating for you
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